tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23468861.post114850141790929691..comments2023-08-24T07:42:13.124-07:00Comments on Ethio-Zagol Post: The State of Ethiopia: ethio-Zagolhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04487656486837688416noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23468861.post-1149062054337314872006-05-31T00:54:00.000-07:002006-05-31T00:54:00.000-07:00It is wonderful when you can achieve democracy thr...It is wonderful when you can achieve democracy through peaceful means. Every country is a different story. In the case of ethiopia we need to recognize that peaceful demonstration peaceful political acivity will not be tolerated with out it being sanctioned by the ruling regime and the american embassy. that is the reality, inorder to acheive what we want for our country must be done through someAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23468861.post-1148598231060104602006-05-25T16:03:00.000-07:002006-05-25T16:03:00.000-07:00Good Point Fikiru,In 1993 Lencoo Lata (Lencho) gav...Good Point Fikiru,<BR/><BR/>In 1993 Lencoo Lata (Lencho) gave an interview in which he said "We will negotiate to be Ethiopians".<BR/><BR/>I would not have a problem with the label (Ethiopia) as far as it doesn't symbolize/embody oppression of my people/any other people. We should know that names come and go. Nubia -> Sudan, Congo -> Zaire -> Dongo etcAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23468861.post-1148595344522770752006-05-25T15:15:00.000-07:002006-05-25T15:15:00.000-07:00Betesfa,Fikru Helebo wrote:'Dr. Berhanu (Nega) als...Betesfa,<BR/><BR/>Fikru Helebo wrote:<BR/><BR/>'Dr. Berhanu (Nega) also mentioned that the "Oromo Question" is something we can not afford not to address. What surprised him the most about his two months of incarceration in Ethiopia was the sheer number of Oromos in jail. He said, he was once invited to speak to a meeting of University students, and, practically, all the Oromo students said they Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23468861.post-1148590165794125672006-05-25T13:49:00.000-07:002006-05-25T13:49:00.000-07:00Zagol,Despite the excitment of the formation of th...Zagol,<BR/><BR/>Despite the excitment of the formation of the AFD, I have similar reservations to Dagmawi. I also see your point. <BR/> <BR/>But it is good to be cautious when groups such as the OLF who say that they are not Ethiopians now are front and center in this new effort. I know someone who is an OLF member who said that all groups should sit down and discuss the future without any BeTesfahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13169656751728422310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23468861.post-1148589616182960232006-05-25T13:40:00.000-07:002006-05-25T13:40:00.000-07:00Right on, Zagol.One of the cultural habits we must...Right on, Zagol.<BR/><BR/>One of the cultural habits we must learn is to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. <BR/><BR/>If we do so in this case, then we'll see that this agreement is about tolerance and inclusion, and the breaking down of barriers brought about by a history of mutual suspicion.<BR/><BR/>Let alone at the top level, at the grassroots, generally speaking, CUD supporters or Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23468861.post-1148562465647202752006-05-25T06:07:00.000-07:002006-05-25T06:07:00.000-07:00Zagol,Thanks again for the incisive observation. I...Zagol,<BR/><BR/>Thanks again for the incisive observation. I also would like you to say something about this article on modus operandi of EPPF: http://www.debteraw.com/to-unity-forces%20-from-former-eppf-fighters.pdf . I was the the generation that went to Bilate during the Derg period and suffered by Woyane afterwards. If EPPF is doing things that are claimed in the article with Shabiya, I thinkAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23468861.post-1148553691637492232006-05-25T03:41:00.000-07:002006-05-25T03:41:00.000-07:00Zagol! Thanks for speaking out against this anti-E...Zagol! Thanks for speaking out against this anti-Ethiopian secessionist Dagmawi and for supporting the unionist-Liberation fronts. You are the bravest and most loyal OLF-ONLF hero!<BR/><BR/>By the way you said: “The alliance has nothing to do with the unity of strategies among the parties.” What does that mean?... a little bit Muddled?<BR/><BR/>Is it possible to have a common Goal with out the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23468861.post-1148551179418574882006-05-25T02:59:00.000-07:002006-05-25T02:59:00.000-07:00Think again and, while at it, try to go beyond the...Think again and, while at it, try to go beyond the obvious. Dagmawi is right on the mark and, we may as well be witnessing the beginning of the end of Ethiopia. By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if the US puts its weight behind the newly formed alliance.<BR/><BR/>Hope the following article could give you some food for thought.<BR/>http://www.debteraw.com/to-unity-forces%Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23468861.post-1148546710220511592006-05-25T01:45:00.000-07:002006-05-25T01:45:00.000-07:00To me, this alliance is very very important to di...To me, this alliance is very very important to diffuse the tension that the TPLF had created between different peoples.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23468861.post-1148537344728477942006-05-24T23:09:00.000-07:002006-05-24T23:09:00.000-07:00I think Dagmawi could be a wolf in a sheep skin, a...I think Dagmawi could be a wolf in a sheep skin, a clever agent of the woyanes. Why else would he put a damper on such good news.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23468861.post-1148516258893828472006-05-24T17:17:00.000-07:002006-05-24T17:17:00.000-07:00You shouldn't hate to disagree with anyone. But in...You shouldn't hate to disagree with anyone. <BR/><BR/>But in some sense I am not as happy that new parties such as the EPPF have made it into this alliance. There is very little known about this front. I applaud the alliance between OLF and CUDP and hope there are practical gains to be made from this coming together.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23468861.post-1148511424070569282006-05-24T15:57:00.000-07:002006-05-24T15:57:00.000-07:00Great response... but, it all depends on the type ...Great response... but, it all depends on the type of the alliance. I think, Dagmawi's cautious response has points. Zagol, as you pointed... these parties have a major ideological and strategic differences... therefore, the agreement should state that the alliance is not of ideology or strategy (the piece you quoted from the draft does not).<BR/><BR/>Beside that, the alliance this long over due..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23468861.post-1148509422463878282006-05-24T15:23:00.000-07:002006-05-24T15:23:00.000-07:00Ethio-Zagol.....Please have some kind of Contact i...Ethio-Zagol.....Please have some kind of Contact information on your site.......Many organizations and individuals would like to contact you in a manner that does not compromise your anonymity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23468861.post-1148504500224201562006-05-24T14:01:00.000-07:002006-05-24T14:01:00.000-07:00You got it right Webmaster!!! The fact of the matt...You got it right Webmaster!!!<BR/> The fact of the matter is there are occasions that Dagmawi's notions are clear indications of inarticulate fear of the influence of joint effort of those majority groups on those tiny minority TPLF groups, in an effort to save a desperate,dying and rotten regime,which is advertently torturing, killing and looting the entire nation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23468861.post-1148503669158941102006-05-24T13:47:00.000-07:002006-05-24T13:47:00.000-07:00Wonderful response. I was surprised by Dagmawi who...Wonderful response. I was surprised by Dagmawi who I admire for his astuteness<BR/>FekadeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com